How to Talk About Shame with Patrycja Slawuta: Part 1

Patrycja Slawuta, Ph.D., has spent a lifetime studying what most of us spend our lives trying not to touch — shame. As a behavior scientist and expert in collective shame, her work explores the holy trinity of taboo — shame, secrecy, and silence — and how invisible shame shapes every part of our lives, including one of its most taboo arenas: money.

In part one of this two-part conversation, we follow the thread of shame into our financial lives — how money becomes a silent biography, shaped by unspoken rules, intergenerational scars, and the stories we tell (or never tell) about what we deserve.

At its heart, this episode asks: how do we unlearn the shame we inherited around wealth, work, and worth — and what new story might we write if we could?

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